Windows 7

Sun Sep 13 16:08:47 CDT 2009

Yes, it is a DEPAUL mailing list. MSDNAA is only available to current CDM
undergrad and grad students.

That is the point I was trying to make.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:42 PM, BB <mhalekane at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is the depaul mailing list. Not The Internet's mailing list.
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Davood Dehnavifar <davood at dehnavifar.com>wrote:
>
>> Personally, I think it is important to do what you think it best for you.
>> For my windows needs I like and plan to stick with XP until the fools at
>> Microsoft are no longer releasing updates for it.
>>
>> Over all though I find it funny that this is a discussion on a Linux
>> mailing list though. I mean I know WIndows is free to DePaul CDM students
>> through MSDNAA but does that really matter when Linux is free to all, all
>> over the internet.
>>
>> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a
>> messy bloodbath.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Sam Faci <safaci2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you look at purely windows... ignoring Linux for the time being.
>>>
>>> You have a choice of Vista, windows 7 and Windows XP.
>>>
>>> XP has been good for years now, but there is no new stuff being
>>> developed with it, newer computers don't have drivers for windows xp,
>>> etc... so eventually you'll be forced to migrate away from XP.
>>>
>>> Vista... is well.. vista.. besides masochist behavior... I wouldn't use
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Windows 7 is pretty much a much more improved Vista with less eye
>>> candy, and pretty stable.  From my very limited brief experience with
>>> it.... it's decent product.  They got rid of the classic start menu,
>>> but I think I'm the only one who actually cares about that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Samir
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Sean Neilan <sean at seanneilan.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > He does have a point..
>>> >
>>> > MOAR!
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:48 PM, BB <mhalekane at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> To those who think i'm trolling....
>>> >>
>>> >> Linux has half to 2/3rds the battery life of windows on the eepc when
>>> >> performing the same tasks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Linux verifiability runs hotter, and power/fan management are buggy
>>> >> without hacks and workarounds, even with the ubuntu array kernel which
>>> is
>>> >> custom compiled for battery and performance on intel atom platforms.
>>> >>
>>> >> Eeebuntu's most recent 2.6.29 kernel is not compatible with many
>>> >> filesystems, and finding the sources, or even who made it is
>>> difficult. (Yet
>>> >> for some reason its installed when you upgrade automatically which
>>> results
>>> >> in an unbootable system).
>>> >>
>>> >> Performance of ubuntu is lackluster without tweaking. Eye candy and
>>> bloat
>>> >> need trimming. Arch linux is too much work. Puppee is not maintained,
>>> and
>>> >> arguably not suitable/intended as a primary distro anyways.
>>> >>
>>> >> Finally, due to intel's hardware having issues, it will give incorrect
>>> >> state to the software. This results in devices being on when linux,
>>> bsd, or
>>> >> whatever thinks they are off, or vice versa. The windows driver set
>>> somehow
>>> >> accommodates for this, but under *nix you can encounter bizarre
>>> errors.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Back on topic though....
>>> >>
>>> >> Performance or lackthreof aside, what does windows 7 bring to the
>>> table
>>> >> that xp does not?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Sean Neilan <sean at seanneilan.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Linux can have good battery life on laptops. It requires recompiling
>>> the
>>> >>> kernel though: http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -Sean
>>> >>>
>>> >>> FEED ME!!!!!! he says.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:17 PM, brandongriffis at gmail.com
>>> >>> <brandongriffis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> While the phrasing of the last paragraph leaves me with a sense of
>>> >>>> "don't feed the troll." I will say that your specs probably won't
>>> see a
>>> >>>> benefit from windows 7. At least not until programs are being
>>> developed
>>> >>>> specifically for it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> However, there's always the curiosity/learning benefit to new
>>> software.
>>> >>>> So it could be worth it to learn now, either for your next system
>>> which will
>>> >>>> see benefit, or to be able to support it in an office environment.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Regardless of your last paragraph being incorrect on several
>>> accounts,
>>> >>>> you've obvoiusly already long since made up your mind on the topic.
>>> So
>>> >>>> basically all of your questions are entirely up to you for what you
>>> want.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -B
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>>> >>>> ________________________________
>>> >>>> BB wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> As CDM students, we get access to windows 7 for free. I currently
>>> have
>>> >>>> an an XP home edition laptop (eeepc 1.6ghz, 2gb ram) that could run
>>> windows
>>> >>>> 7 if it was installed.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What do you guys think about doing the upgrade? Is there a
>>> compelling
>>> >>>> reason to switch to 7?  What makes it better than xp?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Switching to linux is not an option due to poor poor battery life,
>>> poor
>>> >>>> performance, kernel issues, and high heat output.
>>> >>>>
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