[CSS_ACM_General_List] Philosophical question about software engineering: are we failingto manage complexity?

Andrew Kwan acreoaeneas at gmail.com
Thu May 6 00:38:17 CDT 2010


*Mumbles about because not being a answer...*

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Cresten St.Clair <crestenn at gmail.com>wrote:

> Because.
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Andrew Kwan <acreoaeneas at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Can you explain why you say "no", Cresten?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Cresten St.Clair <crestenn at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> My answer: No.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Andrew Kwan <acreoaeneas at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Sorry forgot to reply to all...)
>>>>
>>>> The answer itself I think is not as simple as just managing complexity.
>>>> I think in general, we as developers need to come up with better tools to
>>>> match the growing list of things we are asked to make.  A simple request
>>>> should have a simple solution, but instead we find the solution is more
>>>> involved and we force ourselves to think as a machine (low-level) instead of
>>>> more at a conceptual level.  I'm sure with time our current progress at
>>>> developing more high-level tools will get better to where we won't get the
>>>> impression that we aren't catching up to user demand (might even be we'll
>>>> exceed user demand and come to expect/predict what that demand might be).
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeing the trends in some of DePaul's class offerings like learning
>>>> a functional programming language (Scala), focus on better algorithms (JAVA
>>>> Algorithms/Computer Systems), and so forth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Sean Neilan <sean at seanneilan.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In general, software engineers are supposed to manage complexity. Yet,
>>>>> every year it seems the complexity of computing in general grows. Are
>>>>> we failing to manage complexity? Are the needs of users just becoming
>>>>> more complex?
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think my fellow technocrats?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>> sean at seanneilan.com
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>>> __Cresten St.Clair__
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> __Cresten St.Clair__
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